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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2008/08/19/no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-183615</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, relax. I am not sure you read my comment (number 2). It is easy to say something is &quot;anti-Microsoft fud&quot;, just because Microsoft is involved and somebody dares criticizing it.

As I am quite certain you haven&#039;t understood, my concerns about Silverlight revolve around the fact that it tries, instead of working on open standards and extending the ones there are to give the world a &quot;richer&quot; web, it tries to replace one proprietary technology by the other. I doubt that that it is in the best interest of the user.

However, Aaron mentioned Silverlight&#039;s &quot;Moonlight&quot; counterpart, followed by RichB pointing out that the open standards on the horizon aren&#039;t mature enough to have made it into mainstream consumer products yet, which is why he thinks it is no wonder, even desirable, when a proprietary software attempts to fill this gap now. They are making very valid points here.

Long story short, while I understand you believe my initial blog post was arguably too short to provide a detailed message (something I think I have remedied in the comments following it), it may easily say a lot of negative things about &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;, if you diss people for not supporting your opinion without even having understood theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, relax. I am not sure you read my comment (number 2). It is easy to say something is &#8220;anti-Microsoft fud&#8221;, just because Microsoft is involved and somebody dares criticizing it.</p>
<p>As I am quite certain you haven&#8217;t understood, my concerns about Silverlight revolve around the fact that it tries, instead of working on open standards and extending the ones there are to give the world a &#8220;richer&#8221; web, it tries to replace one proprietary technology by the other. I doubt that that it is in the best interest of the user.</p>
<p>However, Aaron mentioned Silverlight&#8217;s &#8220;Moonlight&#8221; counterpart, followed by RichB pointing out that the open standards on the horizon aren&#8217;t mature enough to have made it into mainstream consumer products yet, which is why he thinks it is no wonder, even desirable, when a proprietary software attempts to fill this gap now. They are making very valid points here.</p>
<p>Long story short, while I understand you believe my initial blog post was arguably too short to provide a detailed message (something I think I have remedied in the comments following it), it may easily say a lot of negative things about <em>you</em>, if you diss people for not supporting your opinion without even having understood theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2008/08/19/no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-183606</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sucks for you then, I&#039;m enjoying high quality Olympic video on my Mac using Firefox without crashes.

Your reason of &quot;having to do with opensource&quot; sounds like anti-microsoft fud as I am sure you have flash installed and have multiple proprietary apps on your computer including your OS. In all honesty I don&#039;t care, but you sound like a hard-core vegetarian who was just caught eating beef.

 No one cares if you do or not, it&#039;s all about the message you portray which in this case says a lot of negative things about you :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sucks for you then, I&#8217;m enjoying high quality Olympic video on my Mac using Firefox without crashes.</p>
<p>Your reason of &#8220;having to do with opensource&#8221; sounds like anti-microsoft fud as I am sure you have flash installed and have multiple proprietary apps on your computer including your OS. In all honesty I don&#8217;t care, but you sound like a hard-core vegetarian who was just caught eating beef.</p>
<p> No one cares if you do or not, it&#8217;s all about the message you portray which in this case says a lot of negative things about you <img src='http://fredericiana.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: RichB</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2008/08/19/no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-183143</link>
		<dc:creator>RichB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Silverlight Beta/OSX has a history of crashing Firefox and having a problematic installer - but FlashBlock from around 6 months ago also contributed to these problems as it blocked Silverlight content due to a FlashBlock bug.

Until SVG + SMIL + Video appears on &quot;3 of the 4 main browsers&quot;, we can&#039;t complain too much about a company trying to give us what we all crave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Silverlight Beta/OSX has a history of crashing Firefox and having a problematic installer &#8211; but FlashBlock from around 6 months ago also contributed to these problems as it blocked Silverlight content due to a FlashBlock bug.</p>
<p>Until SVG + SMIL + Video appears on &#8220;3 of the 4 main browsers&#8221;, we can&#8217;t complain too much about a company trying to give us what we all crave.</p>
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		<title>By: Donnie Berkholz</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2008/08/19/no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-183126</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnie Berkholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder whether they&#039;ve considered that one reason why online viewership is so much lower than TV is because people have to install Silverlight. No doubt it wouldn&#039;t make up the 300X difference, but it might double or quadruple the current number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder whether they&#8217;ve considered that one reason why online viewership is so much lower than TV is because people have to install Silverlight. No doubt it wouldn&#8217;t make up the 300X difference, but it might double or quadruple the current number.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2008/08/19/no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-183117</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comment, thank you, Aaron.

Indeed it has something to do with open standards. I am not keen on installing Silverlight because I don&#039;t think that we need yet another proprietary technology on the internet. I personally don&#039;t think that the answer to Flash should be replacing it with Silverlight, or even Adobe AIR.

Thank you though for pointing out &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_(runtime)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Moonlight&lt;/a&gt;, I hadn&#039;t heard about it before.

Also, running a Mac is a different story. Supporting open source (and, like in my case, working on it) does not contradict with using a specific operating system.

At last, Silverlight Beta has a history of crashing Firefox -- I am sure they have taken care of the bugs, but I just didn&#039;t feel adventurous enough today to make a guinea pig of myself ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comment, thank you, Aaron.</p>
<p>Indeed it has something to do with open standards. I am not keen on installing Silverlight because I don&#8217;t think that we need yet another proprietary technology on the internet. I personally don&#8217;t think that the answer to Flash should be replacing it with Silverlight, or even Adobe AIR.</p>
<p>Thank you though for pointing out <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_(runtime)" rel="nofollow">Moonlight</a>, I hadn&#8217;t heard about it before.</p>
<p>Also, running a Mac is a different story. Supporting open source (and, like in my case, working on it) does not contradict with using a specific operating system.</p>
<p>At last, Silverlight Beta has a history of crashing Firefox &#8212; I am sure they have taken care of the bugs, but I just didn&#8217;t feel adventurous enough today to make a guinea pig of myself <img src='http://fredericiana.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2008/08/19/no-thanks/comment-page-1/#comment-183110</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silverlight is one technology that I&#039;m actually excited about.  Not because of Microsoft, but because of Mono.  Moonlight is a great Free alternative, and it seriously competes with Flash, which is not Free (Gnash just sucks).

Further, why not install Silverlight if you&#039;re running a Mac.  You know you&#039;re using a proprietary operating system, right?  Or does it not have anything to do with Freedom?  I&#039;m curious why you don&#039;t want to install the plugin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silverlight is one technology that I&#8217;m actually excited about.  Not because of Microsoft, but because of Mono.  Moonlight is a great Free alternative, and it seriously competes with Flash, which is not Free (Gnash just sucks).</p>
<p>Further, why not install Silverlight if you&#8217;re running a Mac.  You know you&#8217;re using a proprietary operating system, right?  Or does it not have anything to do with Freedom?  I&#8217;m curious why you don&#8217;t want to install the plugin.</p>
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