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		<title>By: Christin</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-162384</link>
		<dc:creator>Christin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what Peter Reaper says is totally wrong. I´m a half-Irish born in Germany in Bavaria, and the common prejudice that Germans are all anti-semites is really not true! Of course, there are a lot of people who represent very extremist ideas. But most of the people really have no problems at all with Jews. If people have problems with people here, than they talk about Turkish, Russian and Polish, because there are a lot of people from these countries living here. I would say that Semites shouldn´t be worried that Germans don´t like them, there are only some regions in the east of Germany,for example Saxony, I wouldn´t go to if I were obviously not German.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what Peter Reaper says is totally wrong. I´m a half-Irish born in Germany in Bavaria, and the common prejudice that Germans are all anti-semites is really not true! Of course, there are a lot of people who represent very extremist ideas. But most of the people really have no problems at all with Jews. If people have problems with people here, than they talk about Turkish, Russian and Polish, because there are a lot of people from these countries living here. I would say that Semites shouldn´t be worried that Germans don´t like them, there are only some regions in the east of Germany,for example Saxony, I wouldn´t go to if I were obviously not German.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Reaper</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-30142</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I will not allow you to put any more comments like these here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;your [...] chauvinist point&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;lead a modern crusade&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;not in my blog&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks for letting me state my viewpoint up until now. 

I'm not surprised you have decided to silence my different view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I will not allow you to put any more comments like these here.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>your [&#8230;] chauvinist point</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>lead a modern crusade</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>not in my blog</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for letting me state my viewpoint up until now. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised you have decided to silence my different view.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-30140</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Fred.  I wasn't trying to start a flame war on religions, since obviously your original post had nothing to do with any of this.  I probably shouldn't have even said anything...  I wasn't trying to prove a point or disprove Peter's point.  Just an observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Fred.  I wasn&#8217;t trying to start a flame war on religions, since obviously your original post had nothing to do with any of this.  I probably shouldn&#8217;t have even said anything&#8230;  I wasn&#8217;t trying to prove a point or disprove Peter&#8217;s point.  Just an observation.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-30122</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter: This is enough. I will not allow you to put any more comments like these here. You have stated your -- arguably chauvinist -- point time and again, and I am sure everybody who wanted to read it by now, has.

You may believe it is your duty to lead a modern crusade, but not in my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: This is enough. I will not allow you to put any more comments like these here. You have stated your &#8212; arguably chauvinist &#8212; point time and again, and I am sure everybody who wanted to read it by now, has.</p>
<p>You may believe it is your duty to lead a modern crusade, but not in my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-30105</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter: Okay, I can definitely see your point.  And I am not disagreeing with you.  I am more concerned with the idea that "white pride" is being rejected by most Americans.  It just happens to be the official stance of most Americans, but in everyday life I do not observe this.  Most white Americans are very proud of being white, just as most Americans in general are proud to be American.  I would also not generalize the actions of a few aggressive martyrs or terrorists of Islam to the entire population of the muslim faith.  The town in which I live consists of a very large population of muslim minorities, and I can assure you that they are in no way more different to you and I, than a Catholic is to a Protestant.  Thanks for the links.  I will definitely read through them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: Okay, I can definitely see your point.  And I am not disagreeing with you.  I am more concerned with the idea that &#8220;white pride&#8221; is being rejected by most Americans.  It just happens to be the official stance of most Americans, but in everyday life I do not observe this.  Most white Americans are very proud of being white, just as most Americans in general are proud to be American.  I would also not generalize the actions of a few aggressive martyrs or terrorists of Islam to the entire population of the muslim faith.  The town in which I live consists of a very large population of muslim minorities, and I can assure you that they are in no way more different to you and I, than a Catholic is to a Protestant.  Thanks for the links.  I will definitely read through them.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-29853</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peter: What do you base this statement on: "For one, the vast majority of the American population rejects the Ã¢â‚¬Å“white prideÃ¢â‚¬Â crowd.."?  I think America still has a huge problem with racism and white pride.  And the problem is that everyone pretends like it is a thing of the past, but I would not say the majority of the American population rejects the "white pride" crowd.  However this is also something I see in personal experience and don't have anything to cite as a reference.  I am just curious what you base that statement on.  Take a look at this video: http://justindow.com/2007/04/05/fare-dodger/
I blogged about it for its humor, but it is a real thing of the present in Germany as well as in America.  America just spends a huge amount of effort in hiding it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter: What do you base this statement on: &#8220;For one, the vast majority of the American population rejects the Ã¢â‚¬Å“white prideÃ¢â‚¬Â crowd..&#8221;?  I think America still has a huge problem with racism and white pride.  And the problem is that everyone pretends like it is a thing of the past, but I would not say the majority of the American population rejects the &#8220;white pride&#8221; crowd.  However this is also something I see in personal experience and don&#8217;t have anything to cite as a reference.  I am just curious what you base that statement on.  Take a look at this video: <a href="http://justindow.com/2007/04/05/fare-dodger/" rel="nofollow">http://justindow.com/2007/04/05/fare-dodger/</a><br />
I blogged about it for its humor, but it is a real thing of the present in Germany as well as in America.  America just spends a huge amount of effort in hiding it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-29832</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred: Please quit threatening our freedom with your leftist diversity-mongering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred: Please quit threatening our freedom with your leftist diversity-mongering.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Reaper</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-29813</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred: You can &lt;b&gt;claim&lt;/b&gt;, without providing any proof, that the linked blogs are "BS" and "extremist". It's very typical of the left (and the right) to defame the opposition by &lt;b&gt;labeling&lt;/b&gt; them with something others will eagerly agree is "bad" (the uninformed readers will dutifully nod in agreement), and doing so &lt;b&gt;without any basis of fact&lt;/b&gt;. 

Many Germans are cowered in the far left, afraid to say anything that could be construed as being "Nazi"-like. That is a very dangerous way to distance themselves from their past. Ironically, and sadly, the German left has taken &lt;b&gt;many&lt;/b&gt; of the positions traditionally held by the far right as their own. Just look at who is protesting against the "evil" Israelis/Jews, the "war-mongering" Americans, and who is welcoming the members of a violent and unconstitutuinal religion (i.e., Islam - have you read the Koran? Please do!(1)) Answer: It's the &lt;b&gt;left&lt;/b&gt;.

(1) http://peterreaper.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-islam-is-dangerous.html

Please, do our &lt;b&gt;freedom&lt;/b&gt; a favor and inform yourself before hiding in the far left corner (I prefer freedom over peace. And you?)

Yes, I realize my position &lt;b&gt;seems&lt;/b&gt; very far-right to you. But please consider that this &lt;b&gt;might&lt;/b&gt; be more your perception than reality. Are you really willing to have an &lt;b&gt;open mind&lt;/b&gt;? Then make the effort to read at least a few of the linked blog articles! I have far greater respect for reasoned opinions, than baseless and irrational name-calling.

PS. Your German extremists - American white supremacists analogy is grossly inaccurate. For one, the vast majority of the American population rejects the "white pride" crowd, whereas more Germans think that the &lt;b&gt;USA is a greater threat to world peace than Iran&lt;/b&gt;! (I wonder what the response would have been if the question was "Who is the greater threat to world &lt;b&gt;freedom&lt;/b&gt;?))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred: You can <b>claim</b>, without providing any proof, that the linked blogs are &#8220;BS&#8221; and &#8220;extremist&#8221;. It&#8217;s very typical of the left (and the right) to defame the opposition by <b>labeling</b> them with something others will eagerly agree is &#8220;bad&#8221; (the uninformed readers will dutifully nod in agreement), and doing so <b>without any basis of fact</b>. </p>
<p>Many Germans are cowered in the far left, afraid to say anything that could be construed as being &#8220;Nazi&#8221;-like. That is a very dangerous way to distance themselves from their past. Ironically, and sadly, the German left has taken <b>many</b> of the positions traditionally held by the far right as their own. Just look at who is protesting against the &#8220;evil&#8221; Israelis/Jews, the &#8220;war-mongering&#8221; Americans, and who is welcoming the members of a violent and unconstitutuinal religion (i.e., Islam &#8211; have you read the Koran? Please do!(1)) Answer: It&#8217;s the <b>left</b>.</p>
<p>(1) <a href="http://peterreaper.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-islam-is-dangerous.html" rel="nofollow">http://peterreaper.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-islam-is-dangerous.html</a></p>
<p>Please, do our <b>freedom</b> a favor and inform yourself before hiding in the far left corner (I prefer freedom over peace. And you?)</p>
<p>Yes, I realize my position <b>seems</b> very far-right to you. But please consider that this <b>might</b> be more your perception than reality. Are you really willing to have an <b>open mind</b>? Then make the effort to read at least a few of the linked blog articles! I have far greater respect for reasoned opinions, than baseless and irrational name-calling.</p>
<p>PS. Your German extremists &#8211; American white supremacists analogy is grossly inaccurate. For one, the vast majority of the American population rejects the &#8220;white pride&#8221; crowd, whereas more Germans think that the <b>USA is a greater threat to world peace than Iran</b>! (I wonder what the response would have been if the question was &#8220;Who is the greater threat to world <b>freedom</b>?))</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-29567</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter: Sorry, but some of the things you are saying are bs. You are linking to extremist blogs and call it the "German political mind". I can just as well link to "white pride" websites from the US and say "see how all, well not all but a suprisingly big portion of Americans are?". As the author of the other blog noted: Everybody has idiots in their society. But if you use that as a stereotype for the whole people, you are the fool here.

When I looked at Germany from a distance, I saw people demonstrating in the streets against neo-nazi groups. I see people exercising diversity and international friendship.

If you've lived in Germany for more than 30 years and weren't able to see that, you might want to consider getting your information from other sources than questionable weblogs and television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: Sorry, but some of the things you are saying are bs. You are linking to extremist blogs and call it the &#8220;German political mind&#8221;. I can just as well link to &#8220;white pride&#8221; websites from the US and say &#8220;see how all, well not all but a suprisingly big portion of Americans are?&#8221;. As the author of the other blog noted: Everybody has idiots in their society. But if you use that as a stereotype for the whole people, you are the fool here.</p>
<p>When I looked at Germany from a distance, I saw people demonstrating in the streets against neo-nazi groups. I see people exercising diversity and international friendship.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve lived in Germany for more than 30 years and weren&#8217;t able to see that, you might want to consider getting your information from other sources than questionable weblogs and television.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Reaper</title>
		<link>http://fredericiana.com/2007/04/08/more-german-prejudices/#comment-29530</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re.: &lt;b&gt;15 common American prejudices about Germans - True or not?&lt;/b&gt;

I'll have to disagree with "Germans are not all anti-semites, xenophobic and/or Nazis!"

Well, of course not "all" of them are anti-semites, but a surprizingly large portion &lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt; (most on the political left, interestingly). Reading a few articles from this blog should provide some insight into the German (political) mind:
http://lizaswelt.blogspot.com

To see the source of the Germans' attitude toward the US, read this blog:
http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/

To see how Germans are unable to recognize a threat (Islam  Peace), read here:
http://www.politicallyincorrect.de/

Of course, many will off-handedly say "that's not representative" or "that's so right-wing". However, the factual examples and statistics provided are overwhelming. Oh, and I'm an American who's lived in Germany for 30+ years, and I consider myself left-of-center (US standard).

PS. David Hasselhoff &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; a success in Germany (he didn't come here so often for the good weather). Also, Germans &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; have a strange fascination with homoeroticism and kinki sex (in a way I find disgusting, and I like porn).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re.: <b>15 common American prejudices about Germans &#8211; True or not?</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to disagree with &#8220;Germans are not all anti-semites, xenophobic and/or Nazis!&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, of course not &#8220;all&#8221; of them are anti-semites, but a surprizingly large portion <b>are</b> (most on the political left, interestingly). Reading a few articles from this blog should provide some insight into the German (political) mind:<br />
<a href="http://lizaswelt.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://lizaswelt.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>To see the source of the Germans&#8217; attitude toward the US, read this blog:<br />
<a href="http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/</a></p>
<p>To see how Germans are unable to recognize a threat (Islam  Peace), read here:<br />
<a href="http://www.politicallyincorrect.de/" rel="nofollow">http://www.politicallyincorrect.de/</a></p>
<p>Of course, many will off-handedly say &#8220;that&#8217;s not representative&#8221; or &#8220;that&#8217;s so right-wing&#8221;. However, the factual examples and statistics provided are overwhelming. Oh, and I&#8217;m an American who&#8217;s lived in Germany for 30+ years, and I consider myself left-of-center (US standard).</p>
<p>PS. David Hasselhoff <b>was</b> a success in Germany (he didn&#8217;t come here so often for the good weather). Also, Germans <b>do</b> have a strange fascination with homoeroticism and kinki sex (in a way I find disgusting, and I like porn).</p>
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